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easyjet istanbul's airport- how far from the old town

Postby sarita » Mon Aug 21, 2006 1:09 pm

hi,
we are thinking of taking easyjet flights to istanbul ,the Sabiha Gökçen Airport , does anyone know how far this airport is from the old part of istanbul ? and how would i get to the old town ?, we have never been to istanbul before so we have a lot of info to find out.
can anyone can help ?

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Postby davcamp » Mon Aug 21, 2006 7:00 pm

YOU MAY TAKE A BUS FROM THE AIRPORT FOR ABOUT 5-8$USD...TRIP WILL TAKE ANYWHERE FROM 1 TO 2 HOURS DEPENDING ON TIME OF DAY, TRAFFIC....ANOTHER OPTION IS TO TAKE A DOLMUS (MINI-BUS) TO KADIKOY (35 MIN) AND TAKE FERRY ACROSS TO OLD CITY...
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Sabiha Gökçen Airport Transport

Postby turkeytom » Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:56 pm

Please see the sabiha Gökçen Airport page:

http://www.turkeytravelplanner.com/Wher ... rport.html

In general, it can be useful to look for a page on TTP before asking a question. Often you find what you're looking for, and have your answer right away.

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Postby rlbrod » Fri Sep 01, 2006 7:35 pm

Hi

Here is also an article published in the UK Times today, in answer to this query. You can take a coach to Taksim and it is very easy to find your way from there, plus other options of course.

http://travel.timesonline.co.uk/article ... 98,00.html

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Sabiha Gökçen Airport Transport

Postby turkeytom » Tue Sep 05, 2006 7:33 pm

If you are going to Sultanahmet, taking a Havas bus from Sabiha Gökçen Airport to Taksim Square is the long way around. The bus must cross the Bosphorus Bridge, then make its way to Taksim, then you must make your way to Sultanahmet.

It's faster, cheaper, easier and more enjoyable to take the Havas bus to Kadiköy or Harem, docks for ferryboats on the Asian side of the Bosphorus, then take a ferry to Sirkeci/Eminönü or Karaköy, then the Zeytinburnu tram directly to Sultanahmet.

Here are detailed instructions, with ferry schedules:

http://www.turkeytravelplanner.com/Wher ... rport.html

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The Times on Travel

Postby turkeytom » Tue Sep 05, 2006 8:47 pm

Actually, reading The Times' travel answer more closely, it has all the telltale signs of second-hand info; that is, an answer seemingly from someone in the know, but actually from a researcher with little or no direct knowledge of the destination:

1. It looks as though the researcher used TTP's Atatürk Airport and Sabiha Gökçen Airport pages as primary sources because of the facts selected and their arrangement.

2. It states that "It's great if you are hiring a car and heading off towards the Marmara region, to the ancient sites or Troy, Ephesus and Pergamum, or to the resorts along the Aegean coast, as the motorway runs right past the airport."

Well, motorways run right past both Istanbul airports (is there a major airport past which a motorway does NOT run?), but if you hire a car and head off toward the Marmara region, you must either plow through Istanbul traffic (not a happy prospect) or fight with the heavy truck traffic around the eastern end of the Sea of Marmara. The Times' statement is appropriate to Atatürk Airport, from which I recommend hiring a car, but not really to Sabiha Gökçen.

The final paragraph of The Times' answer is most telling of all, being a mishmash of partial, disjointed directions:

The other options mean you'll have to get into the city centre, on the Asia side, and then catch a cab or more public transport from there.


Huh? "city center on the Asia side?" "more public transport?" How do such phrases help a person figure out how to go?

There are regular busses from the airport, operated by Havas, which cost £3, to Taksim Square. This is the cities public transport hub, so it's relatively easy to catch a ferry and a taxi, or a bus from there.


"cities public..." (meaning "city's"). I'd love to see a ferry in Taksim Square, which is high on a hill with no water at all. (Actually, there used to be a reservoir there--maybe they were thinking of that.)

Or you might prefer to take a short taxi ride from the airport to Pendik train station (under three miles away), from where there are trains into the city, with a journey time of 50 minutes.


"trains into the city": meaning to Haydarpasa station, on the Asian side, from which you must still take a ferry, and then the tram or a taxi, to reach Sultanahmet.

In short, The Times' answer gives some information, some of which is accurate, all of which is incomplete. Unfortunately, such researcher-produced, "repurposed" information makes readers believe they have received a fully usable answer that will allow them to go on their way. They have not, and they will not find this out until they are on the spot.

The Times is not alone in this. Whole guidebook series have been written this way. Even the mighty Lonely Planet is subject to it. In their free City Guide pdf download "Two Days in Istanbul," sprinkled with spelling errors in the Turkish words, they state:

Many tourists never make it outside the Old Istanbul area of Sultanahmet, which is a shame....


Actually, Sultanahmet is part of Old Istanbul, and not the other way around. LP then advises readers to...

Head away from the crowds to the Hippodrome


Uh, the Hippodrome is in fact Sultanahmet Square, and it's where the crowds are. They've just told you to get out of where you are and go right back to where you were. Huh?

The print-out goes on to advise readers to take a ferry to Asia, and to...

do nothing more taxing in the afternoon than stroll the waterside to Haydarpasa Station


...which is at least six km of walking along a heavily-trafficked shore road. Hmmmm....

And when you get to Haydarpasa, the print-out advises you to go shopping at a shop right next to the Blue Mosque, which is back in Sultanahmet, where it had earlier advised you not to spend too much of your time.

This sort of cheap gormless editorial dreck is a burden to travelers rather than a help. Having downloading the print-out, a traveler thinks s/he has some useful direction. In fact, upon arrival, s/he must actively un-learn the dreck and start over from scratch.

It is almost always better to have no info than to have these sorts of poor quality info. Without any info, at least you know what you've got.

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Postby rlbrod » Wed Sep 06, 2006 10:45 am

ooops!!

Thanks Tom, I think I was just quite excited to find something specific that I didn't read it through...and realise it was a load of tosh.

thanks for the corrections there

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Times Tosh

Postby turkeytom » Wed Sep 06, 2006 1:35 pm

The first time I read The Times answer, I didn't realize it was tosh either. That's the problem with this stuff: it looks good and useful...until you look more closely and see that it's really not.

There will be more and more of it as the Internet spawns many other such efforts to furnish "expertise" on the cheap.

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Postby Michael » Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:13 am

Another way of going to Taksim or Sultan Ahmet from Sabiha Gökçen Airport would be to take one of the shuttle busses to Bostanci and take fast sea busses to Kabataş (for Taksim) or Yenikapı (for Sultan Ahmet), because the bridge traffic can be pretty atrocious, and not just in the rush hour. It is worth checking the departure times on http://www.ido.com.tr first. There are also frequent yellow dolmuşes going from Bostanci directly to Taksim, for 4 YTL.

Another point is that the slip road to Sabiha Gökçen Airport appears to have been designed in consultation with taxi drivers and is suspiciously long and loopy. The suburban train line passes just 4km south of the airport, but because of the design of the slip road, it is a 12km journey (and 15 YTL on the taxi meter) to Tershane, the nearest station. Once there, the trains (cost 1.30 YTL) are fast and frequent taking approximately 45 minutes to Haydarpaşa.

I have noticed that taxi drivers may also have stifled public transport at other airports, the lack of trains from Izmir Airport to the city centre being a case in point.

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@#$%^&*+ Taxi Drivers

Postby turkeytom » Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:18 pm

I have struggled for years to provide information on alternatives to airport taxis. Taxis provide a useful and competent service, but at a high price.

There should be alternatives, but in some cases there are not. Milas-Bodrum Airport and Izmir's Adnan Menderes Airport are cases in point: busy highways with lots of bus traffic pass within a few kms of the terminals. There should be bus stops at the highway-airport road intersections, but there are not, I'm sure because of presssure from the taxis.

Not that this is an unfamiliar situation to travelers: taxi companies in New York City succeeded in keeping a rail link from going to JFK Airport for years. Millions of travelers had to sit in slow traffic to get to the airport, and pay high fares for the "privilege." Meanwhile, the rest of the world's major airports were getting convenient, efficient, inexpensive rail links, as they should have.

As for trains to Adnan Menderes Airport, apparently TCDD plans to upgrade the rail line between Izmir and Denizli and make it a truly efficient regional service. It would enhance tourism (not to mention business) to have fast, frequent, regular, modern trains along that corridor, connecting Izmir, the airport, Selçuk/Ephesus (and by extension Kusadasi), Aydin and Denizli.

Imagine arriving at the airport, wheeling your bag to the train, and getting out at Selçuk 30 minutes later. Imagine boarding a fast train in Selçuk and going to Pamukkale for the day. Imagine going from Selçuk to Kuyucak by train, then to Aphrodisias by minibus.

The reality at the moment is: someone buys a really cheap easyJet ticket from the UK to Turkey, then finds that it will cost as much or more to get to the center of Istanbul as it cost to fly a thousand miles all the way across Europe.

This is truly crazy, and can only hurt tourism.

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